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[silverstreak]

Well, If you Change Soundwave Mr.Murphy you are going to piss a lot of fans off, don't make such an arrogant mistake.

Second only 7 for each side???????

No, You have to have more than that, this is a war between 2 HUGE sides with hundreds of characters each. If you are only really going to focus on 7 for each side than these are the ones to use:

Autobots:
Optimus Prime
Jazz
Bumblebee
Wheeljack
Hound
Prowl
Grimlock

Decepticons:
Megatron
Starscream
Skywarp
Thundercracker
Soundwave
Shockwave
Reflector

Please stick to the cartoon season 1 characters only for the movie, no Hot Rod!!!!!!!

Keep these other characters for sequals, if there ever are any.

Make sure the other season 1 characters all appear in the movie as background characters.

Also, just to keep it straight with you: Jazz is second in command, not Prowl, please display appropriately, if you are in doubt, watch the origional cartoon, ignore comic book shit.

Thank you.

My choice for core 7
Autobots:
1. Optimus Prime (no brainer)
2. Prowl (2nd in Command, Strategist)
3. Jazz (Covert Operations, one smooth cat)
4. Ironhide(Crafty old Veteran, calming presence during battle)
5. Ratchet or Wheeljack (prefferably Wheeljack, has more personality)
6. Hot Rod or bumblebee (young rookie who often bites off more than he can chew, in an effort to prove his worth. I happen to prefer hot rod because he is less of a pansy)
7. Grimlock (Quintessential Badass. does not have to bee dino could be tank or something ala War Within. )
Decepticons:
1. Megatron
2. Starscream (everyone's favorate traitor, gotta wonder why megatron keeps him around)
3. Soundwave (Communications Officer, Megatron's most trusted servant)
4. Shockwave (methodical and effective, always one step ahead)
5. Devastator (raw unbridled power)
6. Skywarp
7. Thundercracker

1) Megatron makes the most sense as a tank, if he's not a gun.

2) I'd love to see, per Tom Hank's suggestion on the Tonight Show, the original show theme done in Sinatra style. The recent Spiderman movie did that to great effect with Michael Buble, but Tom Jones would be awesome too.

3) Voice wise, Peter Cuellen (Optimus Prime) vs. David Kaye (Megatron) would be incredible.

4) A truck vs. monkey reference to please the fans would be nice... as would cameos by the actors behind the voices (Casey Casem, Gary Chalk, Scott McNeil, Susan Blu, Venus Terzo, Dan Gilvezan, etc).

[NovaSaber]

Originally posted by Don Murphy
There's a shitload of rumors that you guys take as facts out there. There are NO voice actors yet. There may be soon. I will personally make sure that our director considers Frank and the gang. I think celebrity voices for a film like this is moronic.

Glad to hear you feel that way.

Someone out there is telling you that there aill no be toys for this movie from Hasbro? Dream on. That's the very reason they WANT a film from Steven Spielberg.

I for one never doubted that there would be toys. That's why I wasn't the least bit surprised that Megatron won't be a gun. (I also think a tank is more appropriate anyway.)

1- I do not see mass shifting happening.

Depending on what Soundwave turns into, it might be a moot point, but I really don't think mass shifting is too unrealistic for alien robots considering that lots of equally "realistic" movies have humans doing even wierder things.

2- I do not see a giant robot turning into a cassette player.

Well, Soundwave's alternate mode is not really fundamental to his character, so that's okay.
I still think a communications/survaillance van is the best alternate mode for him if he has to be changed, but almost anything reasonably would be acceptable.
Just, don't make him a CD player or MP3 player is there isn't size-changing. Soundwave should be big enough in robot mode to be feared.

3- Hasbro will not have a toy that turns into a pistol.

Naturally.

4- I just saw the robots in SKY CAPTAIN at Comic-Con- we want ours to be the opposite of those. Personalities!

Good. It would really, really suck at being a Transformers movie otherwise.

We are NOT doing anything to do with Beasts and Dinos and shit.

I hope that doesn't mean anything so extreme as to leave out the concept of sparks just because it originated in Beast Wars.
Actually, I think you should reference Beast Wars in some way; maybe reuse a memorable line from it or something like that.
As for the Dinobots, I really think the movie would have more depth with Grimlock in an important role.

The next few weeks will have us, ala X MEN, decide on 7 core members of each team. Desanto will be there to make sure we stay true.

When you say "7 core members" do you mean just 7 members total, or 7 members that get focused on while others might still appear?

If it's seven total, I'd pick:

Optimus Prime
Jazz
Bumblebee
Wheeljack
Ironhide
Mirage
Arcee

Megatron
Starscream
Soundwave
Rumble
Laserbeak
Ravage
Blitzwing

If the total cast is larger, I'd pick these for the core ones:

Optimus Prime
Jazz
Bumblebee
Ironhide
Mirage
Grimlock
Slag

Megatron
Starscream
Skywarp
Thundercracker
Soundwave
Rumble
Scrapper

[silverstreak]

Originally posted by Lodril
1) Megatron makes the most sense as a tank, if he's not a gun.

2) I'd love to see, per Tom Hank's suggestion on the Tonight Show, the original show theme done in Sinatra style. The recent Spiderman movie did that to great effect with Michael Buble, but Tom Jones would be awesome too.

3) Voice wise, Peter Cuellen (Optimus Prime) vs. David Kaye (Megatron) would be incredible.

4) A truck vs. monkey reference to please the fans would be nice... as would cameos by the actors behind the voices (Casey Casem, Gary Chalk, Scott McNeil, Susan Blu, Venus Terzo, Dan Gilvezan, etc).

Who in their right mind chooses David Kaye over Frank Welker for Megatron? I've met David, he's a wonderful guy and a great voice actor, but he is BW megatron, NOT G1.

Here are my suggestions. Since you need to keep it at a core 7 per team, i've tried to use the characters that are most interesting. Hopefully you have more Autobots and decepticons - even if they are just cameos in the background, but these characters below are the ones that, in my opinion, you can get the most milage out of and are the core to the mythos.

Autobots
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1) Optimus Prime - try to keep him as close as possible to the original design (see 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime figure). Its a classic, its the one people know. Other primes that keep the same truck idea in Armada and Energon have been interesting toys, but aren't in the same league as the classic design.

2) Grimlock - I know you said "no Dinos". Fair enough, but Grimlock is too central a Transformers character historically and too interesting a character being essentially a decepticon with an autobot heart, to leave out on basis of him Transforming into a T-Rex. So what could he transform into? The Army has a vehicle called the Grizzly. It is an M1A1 chasis with big claws on the front and is used for mine clearing by combat engineers. Its not a T-Rex, but its the next best thing. It is big, which means Grimlock could transform big. It is not an offensive military vehicle, being used mostly by combat engineers, so it too straddles that line between military (the Decepticons) and non-combat vehicles (the Autobots). If you include Grimlock in the movie, he should be a big military vehicle like this, if for no other reasons than being true to his core origins and more interesting than the sports car he is perverted into being in the Alternator line. Making him a not completely trust worthy character, yet true to his honorable core will keep battles more interesting, rather than the equivalent of smashing two action figures together. The swaying of Grimlock between Autobot and Decepticon could be an interesting plot point. Here is a picture of the Grizzly:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...s/grizzly2.jpg

3) Prowl - Autobot second in command. A good, loyal soldier. The "Cyclops" of the Autobots.

4) Ironhide - Autobot chief of security. Through him and his long life, you could easily explain the great war. Making him a bitter old soldier tired of an endless war, more so than in the cartoon, could also help under score the evil of the Decepticons.

5) Bumblebee - While the human connection will undoubtedly be the primary POV for the movie, bumblebee could be used as a second perspective and also, being a young, eager Autobot soldier, contrast greatly with the withered Ironhide.

6) Wheeljack - the "mad scientist" can give the audience a perspective into autobot technology and can play all the necessary repair roles that the missing Ratchet would provide.

7) Jazz - The "communications officer" and core autobot. Nuff said.

The Ship: My *BIG* suggestion is, if you follow the general outline of the Transformers story, do not use the Ark. The Arch is typcially designed as a flying saucer. It was effective for a Cartoon in 1984, but a movie can do much better. My suggestion, my big one, is instead of the ark, make the transportation the Autobots use to get to earth instead be...Fortress Maximus. He doesn't have to be a headmaster or any nonsense like that. He is simply, a starship, which can transform into a base, which can transform into a robot. You don't even have to show him transform on screen if you don't want (say it uses an absurd amount of energy to power him), but the current and future potential of an energy depleted transforming starship/city/robot, is more interesting than a boring crashed starship of any sort.

The Decepticons
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1) Megatron - The gun idea has always been silly and would look worse on screen. Make him a tank, even a cybertronian tank, but a silver or grey colored one. Transformers has had its share of green Megatron tanks. He shouldn't talk of dominating the universe. Thats silly cartoon stuff. He should be a more practical commander, interested only in the single minded pursuit of his goals - conquest of Earth's resources to transform Cybertron into, essentially, the Death Star.

2) Scourge / Nemesis - A much newer creation than any of the G1 characters, appearing in the Robots in Disguse series, he is, nonetheless, a character that is the opposite of Grimlock - the Autobot with the Decepticon spark. A black tractor trailer of some sort with physical features similar to Optimus Prime, he would make the logical sparring partner with Grimlock. He would be an Autobot which eventually found himself on the decepticon path. As Megatron's right hand mech, he would play the part in the "3 lead Decepticons" that would be traditionally occupied by Soundwave (who IMO, wouldn't be in the movie).

3) Starscream - Starscream in Starscream. The disloyal weasel he has always been. The F-15 he transformed into his 25 years old. He should transform into an F/A-22 (see the recent Transformers Energon Starscream action figure - the jet he transforms into is an F/A-22). The F/A-22 is the Air Force's replacement fighter for the F-15, so it makes a long of sense and would allow him to be highly stylized off his original conception from the 1980s. He would be the third of the three lead Decepticons.

4) Skywarp - Decepticon "ninja". His cloaking device (more practical than teleportation) would make him ideal for special missions. He would transform into an F-117 Stealth Fighter.

5) Thundercracker - Withered Decepticon warrior losing faith in a war without end. He is the Decepticon equivalent of Ironhide, and maybe even his sparing partner, which brings up many interesting questions as to the nature behind the Autobot/Decepticon War. Why should these two characters fight, when they are both losing faith? Being older, he should be an older jet, maybe even an F-15, whose hard angles whould contrast nicley with the much younger, more eager, more merciless F/A-22 Starscream.

6) Ravage - The smallest Decepticon and Bumblebee's counter-part, it might be wise to make keep him some sort of military combat robot, kind of like the robot in Red Planet. Although it would be a bit of a stretch considering the rules about keeping it feasible, Ravange, especially if its a non speaking role, could be an interesting enough character to let it slide this once. The military has many robots in development. Ravange could be based on one of them. He should not transform into anything.

7) Bombshell - I know a big "what?" was just yelled by anyone who loves Transformers. But the fact of the matter is, if we take him out of his Insectacon roots (denied here, just like Grimlock's Dinobot roots), we have a very interesting character. The crazy mad scientist (as opposed to Wheeljack's just being mad), who specializes in mind control, he would be the Decepticon scientist. A "furnace face" like in the Cartoon could differentiate him enough from the other decepticons and would underscore his bizzare experiments on captured autobots (including, perhaps, Scourge/Nemesis?), turning him into a truly evil character. Megatron has an mission. Optimus has a mission. A character like Bombshell would be a perversion of any cause, period. He would transform into a self propelled artillery system (the Paladin system as its called in the Army).

-Have a cameo by Shockwave, even if its in a flashback or introduction and is non-speaking. He is keeping Megatron's house in order back on Cybertron.

I hope my suggestions help. I tried to go with the core of the mythos while keeping it new and refressing and not just a live action "More than Meets the Eye Part 1 and 2". I know replacing Soundwave with Scourge (or Nemesis as his commonly called now) is controversial, but there is much more you can do with him than a stoic, non-transforming Soundwave who would be a relativley non-interesting enemy, cannon fodder for an Autobot.

So if I were to make TWO big suggestions to you film they are the following:

1) Have Grimlock in it, as one of the main characters, swaying between Autobot and Decepticons. Make him a fearsome Grizzly since you would not be doing Dinos (and probably rightly so, it is pretty silly).

2) Make the Autobots crash in the critically damaged and power drained Fortress Maximus. You'll have more options with him in the present and future than the non-transforming Ark (no matter the shape). Plus, Hasbro gets to make their playset for all their movie toys to play in.


Good luck! We're all looking forward to this, "Ultimate Transformers".

[Toxman]

here's what i think the transformers that should be on the movie

DECEPTICONS:
Megatron (leader)
Starscream (annoying 2nd in command)
Soundwave (dont know what could he transform into but he has to be there, since it megatron's right hand)
Skywarp (troop)
Thundercracker (troop)
Cassete Forces if possible (maybe 2 to make 7 chars in total)

AUTOBOTS
Optimus Prime (the leader)
Jazz (prime's right hand)
Bumblebee (the comic relief guy, beside people love him =P)
Ironhide (the tought guy)
Wheeljack (the one who comes with the good ideas)
Ratchet (the one who fix other transformers)
Prowl (the one who kick deceptibuttss)

HUMANS
Spike
Carly "spike girlsfriend" (maybe as a cameo)
Sparpkplug
Dr. ARkerville ? for future plots perhaps

Megatron as a tank would be cool or maybe a Jet. Megatron as gun sucks. Soundwave is a nobody and should be dropped. I don't care which Transformers they use as long as the movie is good. But Soundwave isn't a "must character" for me.

[Toxman]

Originally posted by Starscream27
Megatron as a tank would be cool or maybe a Jet. Megatron as gun sucks. Soundwave is a nobody and should be dropped. I don't care which Transformers they use as long as the movie is good. But Soundwave isn't a "must character" for me.

it is for many of us, i agree with Megatron being a tannk by the way, and if you have cullen you should get welker, kaye and chalk rules still thought. But they can still be considered as in case of emergency guys.

I'd like to see Darkwing and Dreadwind in the movie.

[Fire Star]

Originally posted by KyleDW23
Okay, here goes.

1) No Dinobots, Insecticons, Constructicons, etc until the sequel. It's gonna be hard enough for the artists to make the origional Transformers in the movie. Afterwards, they can be done in the sequel when they don't need to spend all of their time on everything else as well.

2) Female Autobots. It could be shown as brief backstory, as they really didn't do anything till later in the whole grand scheme of things, but just the knowledge of them existing would be good enough for the girl fans.

3) Soundwave. Good God. I will point to the thread that deals with that. I made a suggestion there that could be done to make him a tape deck still while not having to deal with mass reduction. If not, I like the TV News Van idea stated earlier. Wish I had though of that.

4) The cast.
-Optimus Prime
-Ironhide
-Jazz
-Wheeljack
-Prowl
-Mirage
-Bumblebee
-Megatron
-Starscream
-Skywarp
-Thundercracker
-Soundwave
-Rumble
-Lazerbeak

Oh, and one more thing. Celebrity voices could work. I point, as example, Leonard Nemoy as Galvatron, Robert Stack as Ultra Magnus, Eric Idle as Wreck-Gar, and Orson Well as Unicron in his last role. They can work. The just must be very well chosen, and have an actual respect for the work. However, unknowns would also lend to believing that these characters are real, and not that Optimus is actually Morgan Freeman.

This movie needs female TF characters and needs to be more than just a "fight, fight, fight" movie if you want to get the female audience. Women make up more than half of the United States and the rest of the world. When I attended Botcon, it looked like at least 10-20% of the attendies were women. It would be a BIG mistake to make this movie just a "fight fight fight" guy's flick with not even a little estrogen. This movie needs to have at least a couple of female TF characters to begin with to give the audience the female factor and point of view. I never liked how the cartoon presented female TFs as just being extinct and out of the picture and then showing up out of the blue. Have a couple of female TFs in the first movie. And then in the sequels we can have Elita One, Chromia, Firestar, and Moonracer.

In fact the Elita One/Optimus Prime situation can add a very interesting angle to the whole movie mythos and suck in the female audience even more. Why not have Prime and Elita be mates and have a love story? They've done it in so many big blockbuster action movies from Star Wars to Spider Man. Why should this movie be an exception? So what if they're robots. This isn't nearly as unbelievable as mass shifting and yet so many are willing to accept that. As a female TF fan, I'd love it! We could slowly suggest it in the first movie with Prime's behavior. Prime could have a secret, but very intense sadness and anger over something. Of course he keeps it covered up extremely well behind the mask of "confident heroic leader" like all his other emotions. But it's slowly boiling inside him and expanding every second. This sadness is a major reason for what has evolved into his intense hatred of Megatron, the depths of which go far beyond what his fellow Autobots are aware of. It has to do with the death of the one he loved more than life at the hands of Megatron: Elita One. What he does not know is that she is still alive out there in the cosmos, but in danger. And it goes from there.

[MrMiracle]

Well, since the gun is out, perhaps some kind of large artillery piece would me more appropriate for Megatron. Not necissarily a tank, mind you, because Megs is 'all gun'. Oh yeah, the ladies like that. No treads on this bot.

Uhh... anyway

For Soundwave, ponder the following:

Megatron, irritated at the presence of human resistance, but not willing to lift one of his own magnificent fingers to remove them says to his left-hand bot:

"Soundwave, disperse the populace."

Soundwave transforms into a van, heavily modified to accomadate a very unwieldy number of speakers. The windows roll down, woofers and tweeters slide out. Soundwave plays one low note, and within a three mile radius, windows shatter, tires blowout, and car alarms go off. People run screaming.

Not a bad way to use those THX systems the theaters paid so much for.

[davun]

OK, as a long-standing TF fan, here are my thoughts. This movie is a huge opportunity to do something very exciting.
This is going to be a long post, but I'd not easily forgive myself if I kept my peace

Firstly, a comment regarding the 7 'core' members, I would just say that the feel of TF has always been of a large-scale war ( even though the comics / TV tell the stories from personal perspectives ), so I am just concerned you go too far towards X-men, with only 7 robots active each side ( rest in stasis / wreckage ). Please ensure that there are 2 real armies here, even though 7 per side are the focus of the movie. This is by the way a great idea.

Now, you will be introducing a large audience to a new world with this movie, so I agree that many things will have to wait for a hopeful sequel. Dinobots, after all the stuff to take in, might seem a bit much, so leave them out. Devastator also, but I really like the idea posted here to have Scrapper active as a core decepticon, yes, the movie could certainly be about resurecting the constructicons, to learn the secret of 'combiner' transformers. Perhaps, on earth, they don't have the skills to create new TF designs ( beyond their own level ), as on Cybertron, all this was done in special factories / whatever. So there is a real ambition for ( especially the decepticons ) to acquire knowledge for more deadly TF. It would add to the focus of the movie perhaps.

I am surprised nobody has mentioned Skyfire / Jetfire more than a few times, he is such a great character, and would give the Autobots much needed air support. As someone mentioned earlier, yes, have him a core decepticon, and at the end he switches sides, but as the Decepticons are being defeated, the secret of Devastator is found, and their resurection begins, pointing to the sequel movie. But, whatever the plot, I think Skyfire is too cool to leave out. If you do, all the autobots turn into cars, which sucks, because you need variety.

Soundwave. I do think size shifting is bad, it works in comics and cartoons, but seeing it in real life is going to be weird. If he can do it, why don't they all do it, and why stop at tape-deck size, why not go molecular etc etc. So my idea is this. Soundwave is sooo cool, he needs a good alt-mode, and sorry, a TV van doesn't do it for me. I have 2 suggestions. He is the communications officer, so he manages data gathering. For this purpose, he 1) regulates (decepticon) satellites he launches around the earth, and also 2) contact with Cybertron. To do this, he must transform into a super-comm-facitliy, you get the idea. It is realistic, has purpose, and is cool. You could also have the decepticons / soundwave ( and shrapnel as scientist is a very good idea, they go together well ) developing a special satellite for Soundwave so that he can fire a massive weapon down from orbit, but only when transformed. But don't make that a massive plot point, it leans strongly to too many films ( including the original x-men ).

I think is a mistake to have the cassetes Laserbeak and Ravage core characters, they just run around recording things. I would design them such that they are stealth agents pure and simple, and they transform to enter Soundwave's chest plate, simply so that he can download their data fastest. They collect the data, but only Soundwave has the brains to analyze it. I would forget about cassette tapes, since for one, that involves shrinking. And LB / Ravage don't have to be too big anyway. They should definately be present, just not core.

Optimus Prime. Don't know if this has been posted elsewhere here, but here goes anyway. The trailer part has always been a problem, as it disappears / reappears. And I also thought that his robot mode, in scale with a truck front, would not be big enough to be as impressive as it should . So, have him combine with his trailer ( as some kind of exo-suit ) from the beginning, but only when he needs to. And leave the silly 'Roller' out of it. It would give the trailer a much needed purpose, and accountabilty for the audience. And could be extremely cool. It is not G1, it is not utterly by the book, but I think would make for a stronger action movie. And a new version of Optimus for Hasbro to sell.

Well, here's my vote for the 7 per side :

Autobots :

Optimus Prime
Prowl ( head of security )
Sideswipe ( was always the coolest car )
Bumblebee ( the human connector )
Brawn ( loved that character )
Ratchet ( the medic of course )
Mirage ( possible traitor, adds tension )

Decepticons :

Megatron
Soundwave
Starscream ( Megatron's nemesis )
Rumble ( the spy with personality )
Scrapper ( trying to revive the constructicons )
Bombshell ( mad scientist, very cool )
Skyfire ( under Bombshell's control until climax of movie, then manages to break to the Autobots side ).

OK, final comments. Please, no city-sized TFs, etc. I think the cartoon premise of a space battle crash landing on earth ( 2 ships, eveyone on one of them ) works fine. Keep it simple, and fairly realistic.

Also, the humans have to have some power, or else the decepticons would just wipe them out immediately. Perhaps a nuclear strike would actually destroy them, but the humans dont want to.. it just wont be good if the humans are utterly powerless.

Thank you for pushing to make this movie. Your efforts are appreciated very very much!

[Maximus Prime]

Originally posted by slang73 They could stranded on an island (Dinobot Island anyone?)

Well, it would give Speilberg something to do with all the leftover props from the Jurassic Park series, wouldn't it?

Thanks for the updates Mr. Murphy!

A request: No moving mouthplates please! (ala G1 Prime) Still looks better in "real life".

Glowing eyes are great, but NOT the kind that show a lit up "pupil camera" that moves beneath the clear glass (ala some Dreamwave TF close ups). More uniform lighting is much better.

The fast-paced fighting of G1 was great! YOU HAVE TO SEE THE VIDEO FOOTAGE OF THESE OLD 80's G1 TF COMMERCIALS! The pace is wonderful.

http://www.tfw2005.com/downloads-file-236.html
Music videos -> "Commercial Battles"

Okay if you're consiudering a cast for this kind of movie, you gotta go with a few things:

Different functions, like doctor, strategist, etc
A kid favorite ala Bumblebee
Variety of characters (characters that don't appaear in the movie can and will probably be repainted by hasbro in toy form)

Okay:

Autobots:

Optimus Prime: okay, we already know Optimus is gonna be in so nothing needs ot be said.

Bumblebee: I think Bumblebee stands a very good chance of getting in. plus he's one of those guys that kids will probably like.

Jazz: Well he was the most purchased Autobot car during the original series and he's probably one of those guys people will like, besides the fans. Problem is it's ognna be tough to find someone to replace Scatman Crothers.

Prowl: The Autobot strategist. Every group needs a strategist. Personally his colors seem more appealing than that of Bluestreak's and at least Prowl did something in the original movie before dieing. Plus he was underused in the cartoon. He needs a chance to be a hero (Bluestreak and Smokescreen got their turn now it's his.) Bluestreak and Smokescreen would probably amke the toyline as repaints.

Ironhide or Ratchet: Well in terms of variety, you can only have one of the two. The other can be a repaint in the toyline but I think Ironhide would be the choice. If you get Peter Cullen then it should be Ironhide.

Wheeljack: Well the Autobot mad scientist is quite popular with fans. If Ironhide is in and Ratchet is out, then Wheeljack would have to take Ratchet's medical duties since he is qualified to repair TFs.

Jetfire/Skyfire: Since the Autobot force is mainly comprised of ground-based vehicles, the Autobtos would need an aerial combattant sinc emost of the Decepticons can fly in robot mode. plsu the Autobots need someting to get around in. note this is not to get confused with Armada/Energon Jetfire. The Jetfire I speak of was horribly underused and deserves a better role.

Decepticons:

Megatron: Already confirmed pretty much.

Starscream: Starscream, has always proven to be a popular character, whether it be the original series or Armada/Energon, he's always had some of the best toys and roles. The bad guys have gotta have an open traitor. With the loss of Chris latta, he can easily be filled in with Armada/ Energon screamers voice which isn't that bad. however I'd change his design a little, not too much but make him an F-18 or F-22 since F-15's are rather old and out-of-date. (Skywarp and Thundercracker could be visible but I wouldn't give them major roles but make them more Starscream's two lackeys that are unquestionably loyal to Megatron.)

Shockwave: Okay, why would you not consider him. if this is based mor eon the G1 comics then it is mandatory you put the logical cyclops in. He was one of the best villains in the comics. Yes he's was a gun but Energon has show the design can be change to a tank or something like that. He was hardly even in the series ashe got stuck with Chief guard duty on Cybertron 100% the time he was in the series. So you gotta put Shockwave in to do him justice on screen. After all... it's only logical.

Soundwave: What would a movie based on the G1 comics be without Soundwave? A crappy G1 movie. Soundwave was one of the most popular characters in G1 and managed to be the only original Decepticon (not counting the cassettes) to survive the American version of the series while it aired. (Starscream doesn't count cause he was killed by Galvatron in the 1st movie)plus his cassette gimmick is one that made him fun as a toy. But I would only give him 4 cassettes as Soundwave never used more than 4 at a time in the American version, of course they don't need ot have major roles.

Blitzwing or Astrotrain: If you were to chose one triple changer, i'd leave it up to you but probably Astrotrain since you'd already have tanks and a jet.

Scrapper: leader of the Constructions. The others would be present but Scrapper would have the lead role representing them. That would put in...

Devastator: Well you gotta have at least one gestalt and the first one to appear is the best choice. There has to be some sort of big Jeopardy the Autobots run into and this guy is it. You never said anything about gestalts.

[AceAlmighty82]

Something went wrong with his re-formatting, obviously Teletran is messed up after being offline millions of years, right? Say that Soundwave was matched up with a TAPE DECK to better accomodate his acolytes who would be made to fold up into TAPES (more on that in a minute) but because of the SIZE ISSUE he can never transform (ie shrink) into the size of one...but he still retains his classic G1 look! No reason to explain that any further. No one ever explained why Hulk is green or Mystique is blue. He's a freak, just like them ! His unique compensation for not being able to have an alt-form that he can use...is his sentient Special Op's cassette guys.

This, I think is the best idea. You keep the look of what Soundwave was in G1 but you don't get his alt mode. It's a sacrifice but a small one..i think. You did see him in his alt mode from time to time to play back any info that either laserbeak, ravage, rumble, etc recieved from their mission. He can do that easily in robot mode with his arms by attaching any cords/wires to any computer device.

Soundwave is the one decepticon you don't want to change too much as of an alt mode..if Mr Murphy doesn't like the failed alt mode idea..he's got that distinct look that if you alter it too much it won't be him..bumblebee for example he's designed after an older model VW Beetle..you can easily give him the new VW Beetle look and you'll still know who it is..Soundwave will be the most difficult to come up with for an alt mode that we all can be happy with..he definitely has to be in the film..he's Megatron's go to guy..he never fails

[joshuaferrell]

here's my thoughts....
to be fair I think there should be earthbound transformers and cybertronian transformers (which would make more than 7 each but it would work better)..for example....

earthbound autobots
1.optimus prime
2.jazz
3.bumblebee
4.rachet
5.prowl
6.wheeljack
7.sunstreaker
earthbound decepticons
1.megatron(tank)
2.soundwave(?)
3.starscream
4.rumble
5.ravage
6.thunercracker
7.laserbeak

cybertronian decepticons
1.shockwave (a must have)
2.skywarp
3.astrotrain
4.blitzwing


cybertronian autobots
1.elita-1
2.cliffjumper
3.trailbreaker
4.mirage
5.ironhide
other
1.alpha trion
2.quintisons
3.vector sigma
4.space bridge
5.sparks
6.matrix
7.unicron/primus(origin)
I like the idea of the earthbound t.f.s keeping in touch with the cybertrionian t.f.s that way you get both worlds,plus it makes sense,maby at the end of the movie some of the cybertronian t.f.s could come to earth to help with the war.,..
also I think the humans should be freaked out by these robots and they try to rid the world of them,spike would help give the autobots a good name,.,,,,,also megatron as a tank fighting human taks would be cool,,,,

[SkyQuake]

Well, to interject one more thought about Soundwave....

To me the character of Soundwave is a bridge- a piece of what humans feel that machines are-- cold, and lifeless....yet Soundwave is alive, generally silent (like a machine), but meaningfully evil instead of lifeless. He's a throw-back to the Cylons of Battle Star Galactica.... something we used to expect robots to be, but also so much more. He has the potential to be the creapiest character (not neccessarily one of brute force, but mystery.... the fear of the unknown is the strongest).... Of the earlier G1 Deceps, who would you least like to be stuck in a dark room with staring at you?

[llamatron]

Firstly, *PLEASE NO FEMBOTS*...unless maybe a cameo on cybertron or something...but in general just say no to female transformers.

Anyway, here's my idea's for the core 7 of each side:

Autobots
Optime Prime
Prowl
Jazz
Bumblebee
Wheeljack
Ironhide
Grimlock (doenst have to be a dino - can be some sort of *big* car or military vehicle)

Decepticons
Megatron
Soundwave (only if he isnt a midget...)
Starscream
Skywarp
Thundercracker
Blitzwing or Astrotrain
Devestator - unlikely I know
Lazerbeak / Ravage / Rumble / Frenzy etc

Autobots:

Optimus Prime
Bumblebee
Prowl
Wheeljack
Mirage
Hound
Brawn


Decepticons:

Megatron
Starscream
Shockwave
Soundwave
Rumble
Ravage
Laserbeak

People keep saying they want Shockwave in the Movie but to transform to his Alt mode he needs to shrink too, therefor he couldnt (and shouldn't) be in the movie.

The 8 Decepticons should be:

Meagtron (HI-Tech Cannon)
Soundwave ( Mobile Communication Satllit Station [Computer] )
Starscream (Jet)
Skywarp (Jet)
Thundercracker (Jet)
Ravage (Panter/Cassete)
Laserbeak (Kondor/Cassete)
and you have to have Rumble (Robot/Cassete)

The Combiners, Dinobots & Shockwave should be in the sequel
(Think a TF:G1 Vol.2 kind of story for shockwave when in the sequel all the Transformers go back to Cybertron to discover he rules the planet)

[joshuaferrell]

Originally posted by AdamTrion
People keep saying they want Shockwave in the Movie but to transform to his Alt mode he needs to shrink too, therefor he couldnt (and shouldn't) be in the movie.

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[joshuaferrell]

Originally posted by AdamTrion
People keep saying they want Shockwave in the Movie but to transform to his Alt mode he needs to shrink too, therefor he couldnt (and shouldn't) be in the movie.

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I don't remember shockwave ever shrinking,in fact he was always a huge gun that floated around everywhere,I think shockwave must be in it that way you have communication with cybertron,also he's just too cool to be left off...

[donsegar]

Here's my choices for the "core" characters.

Autobots: Optimus Prime, Jazz, Ironhide, Ratchet, Bumblebee,
Hound and Mirage

Decepticons: Megatron, Starscream, Shockwave,
Soundwave (w/ Laserbeak, Ravage and Rumble),
Skywarp, Thundercracker and Reflector